160# Sexy Stochastic (method Boxingislife)
The setup of the system
1 st Stochastics called the 20:
Format: royal blue thickness is 4 , signal line dotted thickness is 1
2nd stochastics, called the 50, in the same window.
Format: orange red same thickness and everything as 20
3rd stochastics, called the 5, in the same window. this one is for entry.
Format: lime green and the thickness is 2 for both lines
4th stochastics, called the 100, in the same window. This if for 1H+.
Format: yellow same as 20 and 50 with thickness and style
for all stochastics: MA method is simple and price field is low/high
Look at the 20 and the 50 and see what they are doing.
Downtrend: you want the 20 to be crossed down with its signal line and the 50 to be
doing the same.Extra hindsigth: this is not necessary but when the 20 is below the 50 then that’s the first hint the trend is down
Uptrend: you want the 20 to be crossed up with its signal line and the 50 to be doing the same.
Extra hindsigth: this is not necessary but when the 20 is above the 50 then that’s the first hint the trend is up
Attention: sometimes the 20 and 50 are really close to each other which should make youcautious about taking trades.
We want the 5 to go into overbought, basically we are looking for a pullback. As soon
as the 5 cross back down we enter. if a nice tiny little consolidation formed and 20 and 50 are trending down and nicely then enter at that even if the 5 did not make it to overbought we enter when it crosses back down.
We want the 5 to go into oversold, basically we are looking for a pullback. As soon as the 5 cross back up we enter. If a nice tiny little consolidation formed and 20 and 50 are trending up and nicely then enter at that even if the 5 did not make it to oversold we enter when it crosses back up.
- the cross of the 20 and 50 is not so reliable. like an MA cross it can be tricky. but its good to look at because it can keep u away from bad trades.
- when the 20 cross its signal line, look at how steep its going up or down and also look at the space between the main line and the signal. The bigger the space the better the trade will be. Same with the slope the steeper it is the better. This is stuff that after a few examples you will learn to see for yourself and you will know when its nice and trendy and when its being naughty.
- the 5 does not have to pull back all the way into oversold or overbought area. wait for a consolidation of price or for stochs to cross then enter. in a strong trend u can easily see when price stalls before continuing.
-I wait for the 5 to cross and the candle to close when its not the perfect setup. for example if 20 and 50 are above 80 means its an uptrend but if they crossed their signals down means its starting to trend down so in that case to be more on the safe side I wait for the bar to close and the 5 to cross.
otherwise if everything is pointing for a good trade then I enter once price has consolidated or when I see a reversal bar the 100 stochastics is mainly for timeframes of 1h or longer. its just extra confirmation
perfect long trade:
20 cross the 50 up.
20 and 50 both crossed their signal line up and are sloped nicely
5 pulls back all the way into oversold while price is stalling and consolidating.
For anyone trying this system I suggest sticking to 2-3 pairs with 5 and 15 min chart each. U dont need to look at more or else you will go nuts. I mainly watch gbpusd and usdchf on 5 and
15 but I glance at other pairs and timeframes and take trades. But I strongly suggest to stick to 5 and 15 min on 2-3 pairs I think the main thing is to enter GOOD trades and MINIMIZE your losses! Get that under
control and the rest will fall into place
Stops and Exits:
A nice and easy way to get out is when the 5 stochastics goes oversold or overbought. You can exit and wait to see if another signal is happening.
I also take in consideration the time frame I am using if it is 5 or 15 then I aim for 15-20 pips mostly 15. Stop is usually 10-15, but since I only look for the best setups then my hit rate is pretty high.
A typical stop on gbpjpy would be 20-25 pips with a target of around the same or a bit higher around 30 pips. But trading gbpjpy on 15 min chart is a bit scary. You should add the spreads or at least part of it to an already decent stop or target. As with exit strategies. During the Asian session or towards the end of the US session I'm only looking for 10-15 pip gains because there isn't much action. During the London Open through London Close you get much more action so I try to get anywhere from 25-50 pips. It all depends on what I see setting up on the charts and the candle formations. If I see hammers, doji's, railroad track, etc. Then I go ahead and take my profits then usually because a reversal could be coming up. I think the main thing is to enter GOOD trades and MINIMIZE your losses! Get that under control and the rest will fall into place.
Look for a few things:
time of day
pair's daily range
how good of a setup it is
for 5 to get to an extreme number
I mainly focus on gbpusd usdchf gbpjpy, eurjpy, while checking some others every now and then like eurusd, usdjpy, audusd. But I try to stick to 2-3 pairs. No more otherwise I wil go insane. I have been trading this for several month using only the best setups and sticking to the rules.
Overbought and Oversold
As for the pull backs when the 20 and 50 are oversold or overbought thats the slingshot system by buffy. Its a high percentage trend trade. I also look for those but my main setup and perfect
trade is the examples i have posted in here.
Multiple time frames
Generally the longer time frame is the one with the better results but that is not always the case.
Two things off the top of my head:
1. If the 1h is not up or down and the 15 is down then you are gonna look to short and
2. If theres opposite signals then look for how price is behaving: is price trending up strongly? is there any divergence? things like that but an even easier way to avoid all this mess is do not trade that pair simple as that. And that is what I do sometimes.
The more confirmation the better but sometimes looking into it too much, well to me it makes me wanna not trade anymore.
There is plenty of pairs with at least 1 perfect setup everyday that agrees with a higher time frame. No need to take a trade and be nervous the whole time.
(Problem: My main problem is trying to figure out the best time frame to take the signal, because not only is there at least 1 perfect set up in most pairs per day, but there also seems to be at least more than 1 perfect setup in different timeframes for the same pair, e.g. going
short on a 4H chart, and going long on a 15M chart!!)
There is no ideal timeframe. Each has its own characteristics and what not. Each timeframe has its own stops and targets and all this stuff. It can depend on your availability. If you are
available around volatile times for a while then trade off the 15 min unless there is a nice 1h signal. If you can periodically check then the 1h chart should give nice trades pretty often. It also depends on the pair. Do not trade a pair with a 15 pip spread off the 5 min chart. That is just asking to lose money. And do not trade the euro for example off the 5 or 15 min during the asian session. Your chances of that trade making pips is very low. So it really depends on all this stuff and I cant actually tell u what to do and when and what to
trade because one thing might work for me but not for you. But in the end you can make all timeframes work and any pair. I suggest you start with 15 min and 1h and if you do not have a lot of time study the 1h and 4h charts. As for contradicting signals on different time frames, do not confuse yourself with too many timeframes. If you are unsure just do not trade! Simple as that! Its what I do. Just because the 15 is pointing down but the 1h is pointing up does not mean one is gonna win. The price could go down according to 15 then go up. Remember different time frames are different timeframes and they will contradict each other sometimes. Also try not to look at a 5 min chart then a 4h chart for confirmation, thats just silly! For 15 min try confirming with 1h and for 1h try confirming with 4h. Also trading the 5 min chart can be rewarding. I consider it advanced and do not look at it too much. Too many false signals.
People keep it simple. Trust me do not look into it too much there is nothing perfect! If the trade fails it fails even the best traders will have bad trades, it happens.
The daily time frame
The daily is a completely different story. I will be honest: taking trades off the daily is hard and confusing and tricky. Even if I am gone non stop I would rather take trades off the 4h. Trust me the 4h is great and it gives you plenty of time to enter a trade and exit a trade and it moves in big amounts. But if you have to trade the daily then yea I guess you can just trade off the 5 stochastic with confirmation from 20 and 50. But I mean the settings are fine but what I see is the really good setups are very rare and you usually need to look for reversal bars, pin bars, hidden divergence and things like that and either way you’re gonna have a big stop. Sorry I really do not trade the daily often. I just look at it sometimes for trend direction.
Another thing you can do is wait only for the perfect setups and trade like 10 different pairs. I am sure the perfect setup will happen on a pair fairly often.
The thought sequence
I glance at the 4h to see what its doing. If the trend is up then I am biased to go long when its the right time on the other time frames. Lets say trend is up. I then look at the 1h and 15 min.
Lets say 1h is trending down. To me this is a retracement and the move down will be small and short lived and then price will consolidate. If everything is as planned the 15 would have turned up and the 1h would be trending down slightly but with more signs of being flat or the 50 is flatfor example. Then I’ll start taking trades off the 15 min if its an active time of day and when the first signal works the 1h should be turning up. Then I’ll look for more signals on the 15 minand 1h. This will get easier with practice and experience. Bad trades will happen and there isno way to avoid them 100%. I have had a bad trade last night. It was not a system trade but I was just bored to be honest and lost 30 pips. I am over it because I know they will happen even though I could have avoided it. I can say with lots of proud ness that when taking the best setups you will have at least 80% trades to be winners.
I like to keep things simple and prefer taking trades off higher timeframes rather than the smaller ones but I will go to smaller timeframes when the higher ones are not showing anysignals.
(Moonchild: As long as I (Moonchild) have at least 2 charts which agree (I prefer adjacent time frames) then I almost never fail. If I have 3 time frames agreeing, then I increase the lots.)
So the procedure:
4h: main trend
1h: watch for retracements from a 4h move or for price consolidation that are saying 4h trend is good and the 1h has just retraced and it is not moving against the 4h any further 15 min: following the trend of the 4h. look for first trade during active time. If things go smooth, the 1h will follow then things should be smooth sailing from there.
Bundling of Stochastic
I notice in the chart of post #8 that you have a structure which I call a "bundling" of stochastic.
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